Bailing out of psychology
I'm a ex-psychology major, even started my masters, before leaving to focus on my startup. Your post on clinical psychology is dead on, and one of the main reasons why I left. As one of my better professors said, "There is no reason why psychology cannot be a science, but we have to make sure it is the good kind of science".
Thanks for writing. That's a pretty funny anecdote. By definition, science is what it is — we don't get to tell nature what we prefer to be real. Science, like the universe, is morally neutral and indifferent to our passions.
Nothing else too intellectually interesting to say, just imagined that it's nice to have people agreeing with you once in a while.
Yes, it is nice. I appreciate your taking the time to write. Good luck with your startup!
Complicated, therefore scientific
I read your article on the scientific paradigm and I found it very interesting. I'm an undergraduate Psychology student [...]. I was just wondering what are your thoughts on the view that Psychology should be given the extra liberty, or discretion if you will, of allowing non-scientific features like subjectivity because ultimately it is the most complex science of all.
By speaking this way you've skipped over the question of whether psychology is a science as science is defined. As my article shows, it is not. Complexity by itself doesn't make something scientific — if this were not the case, any incomprehensible process would automatically be granted the status of science.
Topics don't become scientific by being incomprehensible, they become scientific by having reliable, tested, falsifiable theories that are validated by observations of nature.
I say this because Psychology's subject matter are human beings with a consciousness, unlike other sciences ...
"Unlike other sciences"? Throughout your writing, your hidden assumption is that psychology is a science. Freud disagrees. Every responsible observer has disagreed through the entire history of psychology. The current director of the National Institute of Mental Health disagrees.
... that can predict the motion of celestial bodies millions of miles away, Psychologists deal with human beings whom, arguably are the most unpredictable of all.
Yes. Therefore psychology is not a science. Science's message is not "It's all too complicated", it is "Here's what we are certain of, and what we have yet to learn." All backed up by reliable theories and by reliable empirical evidence, acquired through observations of nature that could falsify our theories but instead support them.
Have a nice day.
[ Some of my younger correspondents seem not to have learned critical thinking skills. If the above argument had merit, then astrology would become science based solely on its many enthusiastic followers. Religion would become science due to pressure from the religious, who are offended that their beliefs don't have scientific standing, and isn't that a shame? ]
Questions about Psychology
I really enjoyed reading your paper and found it very useful in answering my questions about Psychology. I agree with your stance that Psychology is a pseudoscience, but I have more questions about it (if that's okay). I saw that you mentioned certain "made-up therapy methods" such as RMT, Recovery Method Theory.
I believe you mean "Recovered Memory Therapy", a fad from the 1990s in which people were encouraged to believe fantasies and report them as though they were real events, including terrible but imaginary sex crimes.
What is your position on CBT, Cognitive Behavioral Therapy? Or even Classical Conditioning? These seem to be more "structured" theories, and some even have experiments that back them up, e.g Pavlov's dogs.
It's important to understand that, without a testable theory framework (an explanation, not just a description), a field can conduct experiments to test its practices, then publish only the results that agree with the experimenters' expectations. This is a common problem in psychology and other social "sciences" — it's called the "file-drawer" problem. In the file-drawer outcome, studies that don't meet a researcher's expectations are put out of the way in a file drawer, or they're submitted to a journal that declines to publish them because they're not exciting enough — they don't have the words "breakthrough" or "revolutionary" in their titles. This selective bias has the effect of making a field seem more substantial than it really is.
Another problem is the nearly complete absence of replication in psychology. As you ought to be aware, replication of results is an essential part of the scientific process. This lack of scientific discipline in psychology can hide any number of serious problems. In a recent major project, a group of real scientists tried to address the lack of psychology replication by setting out to re-perform a large selection of published studies, and discovered that only 39% of them could be replicated. Further, the successful replications had smaller effect sizes than the original studies, which in some cases would have prevented their publication in the first place.
The meaning of this study is that, in the formal published psychology literature, most of the results don't actually mean what they claim.
Also, in regards to "psychological ailments", would you classify some disorders such as Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, Schizophrenia or ADHD as "made up"?
Not if people think they have an ailment. How can one's subjective mental state be thought of as "made up"? The individual's subjective experience is real enough, but the problems begin when we try to associate the condition with an objective diagnosis, identification of a cause, and meaningful treatment — in other words, with science.
Were psychology a scientific discipline, a diagnosis would be the same for any client, any practitioner, and any health center, as is true in medicine. It's the same for identifying a causative biological agent and crafting a treatment — in science, these things are uniform regardless of the client, the practitioner, and the institution. But in psychology, none of these things is true.
In medicine, you either have cancer or you don't, and full-body scans establish the diagnosis in an unambiguous way, regardless of the beliefs and background of the practitioner. In psychology by contrast, everyone gets a diagnosis, either a serious one that may be grounded in an objectively real biological condition that psychology cannot treat, or some made-up condition like Asperger's, and as a last resort, the practitioner can assign the catch-all diagnosis of "not otherwise specified," a recognized DSM category.
Imagine a doctor telling you that you're suffering from "not otherwise specified".
Or would you classify them as a Neurological ailments?
Many conditions presently being treated as mental illnesses are actually biological ailments, most of which aren't understood, and that eventually will be moved from psychology to neuroscience (i.e. moved from the mind to the brain). Many other conditions are simply made-up ways to stigmatize people who are different than their average peers. Asperger's was one of those — it diagnosed as mentally ill people showing signs of intelligence and creativity. Then someone discovered that a large number of famous people, living and dead, showed the same symptoms. This made the diagnosis popular among young people who clamored to be given the same diagnosis as Albert Einstein and Bill Gates. This forced psychology's hand and Asperger's was abandoned.
Opportunistic-diagnosis examples like Asperger's have repeated over the decades, as long as psychology has been in existence. In the mid-20th century, homosexuality was classed among mental illnesses and phony cures were offered. Then, when public attitudes changed and that particular discrimination ended, homosexuality suddenly wasn't a mental illness any more. My point is that inventing mental illnesses is a dangerous practice that can give a phony pseudoscientific authority to public prejudices.
The remedy to these problems is science, but because psychology studies the mind, and because the mind is not an empirically accessible organ like the brain, mind science isn't possible. I can't express it more clearly than that.
Thank you for your time and I'm looking forward to your reply.
You are most welcome. I hope this exchange inspires the kind of disciplined and creative thinking on which all human progress depends.